you have people stuck in their ideological positions and don't see a lot passed and signed in to law. >> what about the approval rating for this congress? >> it is at an all-time low in the nbc/"wall street journal" poll. an all-time low. that is just, you know, all-time lows. and, you know, i think that is a big reason you don't see people having a lot of confidence a lot will get as far as compromise goes as we're headed in to this fiscal cliff. >> you can probably ask people this next thing off the street, to give examples of the dysfunction of this congress because so many of these have been high profile. >> well, sure. there's so many different things of the debate, the standoff and both sides took some hits for. the super-committee failure setting this in motion the first place. the near shutdown of the government in 2011 and the defeat of the disabilities treaty that was because of republicans not liking the united nations, anything with u.n. on it. that went down even with bob dole on the floor, you know, at the senate, coming back, hoping republicans help pass it and would no